Internet Relay Chats/March 25, 2015



Date and Time March 25, 2015, 9:00 pm

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Topic odia Wikimedia Community chat with Wikimedians

Agenda


 * Touching base with the community
 * Discussing history, context, current activities, proposed plans from odia Wikimedia Community

Attendees


 * 1) ravidreams
 * 2) Sailesh
 * 3) Subhashish Panigrahi
 * 4) Bodhisattwa
 * 5) Subas Chandra Rout
 * 6) Gyan
 * 7) Netha Hussain
 * 8) Mrutyunjaya Kar

 IRC session log. [21:00] Hi Sailesh [21:01]  hello all :) [21:01] Hello all [21:01] Hi Niharika, are you a Wikipedian by any chance? :) [21:01] Let me go catch all Indian Wikimedians with a green light in FB :) [21:02] ha ha [21:02]  Where are other Odia Wikimedians? [21:02] me too. :) [21:02]  Hi subha. I work for Wikimedia Foundation but I'm not an active editor. Does that comply with your definition of "Wikipedian"? :) [21:02] Sailesh, you're the leader. I should be asking you. [21:03] Niharika, yup. Anyone contributing to the movement is a Wikimedian. :) Nice to meet you here. [21:03]  Subha bhai :3 (This smiley is the best answer) [21:03] Hi Bodhisattwa [21:03]  Nice to meet you too subha! [21:04]  hi bodhi [21:04] Bodhisattwa is the first FB wicket :) [21:04] Netha second :) [21:04]  Hey Netha. [21:04] jkavadoor, hi [21:04]  Hello, everyone! [21:04] Pmlineditor [21:04] Hi Netha [21:04] Back? [21:07]  ?? [21:07] Thinking of starting at 9.10 [21:07] Hi tonythomas [21:07] Wow, I'm meeting so many new people on IRC. :) Good job Ravi! [21:08] hello subha ! [21:09] Thanks, Subha [21:09] Thn we are all set to start [21:09] Everyone, please introduce yourself, your community and home wiki so we know each other. [21:09]  yeah [21:09] subas__: Sir Namaskar [21:10] To give a quick intro, this is the second in series of community discussions. First chat with Punjabi happened two weeks before. http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Internet_Relay_Chats/March_11,_2015 [21:10] We hope to continue this to introduce ourselves across communities [21:10]  namaskar [21:10] So, I leave it to the Odia Wikipedians to introduce themselves and also the projects [21:11]  Hi, I am Bodhisattwa from Bengali Wikipedia [21:11]  I am Subas Chandra Rout from Odia Wikipedia. [21:11] I am Ravi from which wikipedia :) Confused Bangalorean :) [21:12] A word on how your first Odia Wikipedia will be great [21:12] how you first knew [21:13] Sailesh: ? [21:13] My name is Subhashish. I am an Odia Wikipedian and I am with the Centre for Internet and Society's Access To Knowledge program. [21:14]  Hello am the only jobeless person on Odia Wiki [21:15]  same here Sailesh [21:15]  :-) [21:15] <subas__> Sailesh, I am also jobless. [21:15] Hello sailesh, you have assured to get back to your school exams after this chat :) [21:16] Seriously, how did you guys know about and started contributing to or wiki? [21:16] <Sailesh> Yeah, Ravi yesterday i got scolding from my parents :P [21:16] search? Outreach? [21:17] <subas__> let us talk about the subject of discussion. [21:17] I was introduced to Odia Wikipedia by Asutosh Kar then in details by Shiju Alex. :) [21:18] <subas__> I got myself introduced through facebook. [21:18] <Bodhisattwa> I forgot [21:18] <Bodhisattwa> :-) [21:19] <Sailesh> I was reading an article about Indo-Pak war 1972, and bymistake selected India's article then found there about Odia language Wiki and by god's grace the very next day there was Bhubaneswar Wiki workshop [21:19] wow [21:19] I see lot of interlinks in the outreach [21:19] <Sailesh> and was introduced to wiki by Manoranjan bhai then subha bhai [21:20] Bodhisattwa: This chat will be focussed on Odia community. Feel free to seek clarifications from them and share best practices from Bangla community [21:20] <Bodhisattwa> ok [21:21] <Sailesh> Now am mainly focusing on outreach programs due to lack of knowledge in odia literature [21:22] subha: Trying to understand the project history by seeing http://stats.wikimedia.org/EN/SummaryOR.htm [21:22] Looks like there were 1 or 2 editors around 2007 [21:22] Are anyone from that time still there [21:23] <subas__> Subha can better tell. [21:23] I don't think so. :/ [21:23] So the currently active set of editors are all from 2011 [21:23] We all started becoming active after 2011. [21:24] coinciding with the Bangalore meetups? [21:24] I think Shiju took an interest in Odia community then? [21:24] <subas__> I started in 2012. [21:24] Gresat [21:24] yup, Bangalore is where the community started meeting, then it was Cuttack. Wow. I feel nostalgic. :) [21:24] hah [21:24] a [21:25] Shiju took interest from the very beginning before all of all. He still asks me questions and shares interesting ideas. :) [21:25] Both Punjabi and Odia's good experince with closely tied outreach makes me think how we can make outreaches in general more effective [21:25] We didn't have much luck with that in ta wiki [21:25] doing regular meetups in same place is rare for us [21:26] Shiju is undercover now :) [21:26] true [21:26] ha ha, only i get to meet him! B| [21:26] subha: You are a special agent :) [21:26] <subas__> But why ? [21:27] <Sailesh> Who's Shizu O.o [21:27] ha ha [21:27] Shiju is taking an interest towards WikiSource [21:27] digitization of old Malayalam literature etc., [21:27] It is natural for long active people to take break and retunr [21:27] Let's hope so [21:28] So, when the community got active in 2012, were there any focus areas? [21:28] Like content about Odisa, Odiya literature etc., [21:28] Do you have a lot of content about few topics? [21:28] Like sports and movies [21:28] Sailesh, Meet Shiju: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Shijualex [21:29] Who's Shizu O.o :) [21:29] Nice title :) [21:29] <Sailesh> We have good content in medical science [21:29] <Sailesh> jagannath culture [21:29] <subas__> One should concentrate on one aspect, called focus. Shiju is doing that. [21:30] subas__ sir has put a lot of efforts over all these years to contribute to medicine related articles on Odia Wikipedia. [21:31] Articles related some of the places in Odisha are well covered. [21:31] <subas__> I think we are doing a lot for Odia wikisource. [21:32] Good to know [21:32] <subas__> Thanks Subha for the compliment. [21:32] Do you take an interest in global lists like 1000 articles every Wikipedia should have [21:33] Is there a popular demand for content? Users asking to create articles on some topics [21:33] Or search engine trends you can assess through blogs ect., [21:33] All hail Mrutyunjaya Kar and Aditya Mahar for the articles related to places. Pritiranjan Tripathy has contributed quite a lot of articles related to notable people from Odisha. [21:33] subas__: Sir, we will come to Wikisource in second part of the discussion [21:33] Ravi, yes. but it is customized :) [21:34] How? [21:34] I just checked https://or.wikipedia.org/s/m7 randomly to see how place related articles are written [21:35] most of the articles are related to Odia language, culture and Odisha [21:35] <Sailesh> Ravi the problem is that the contributors in Odia wiki are limisted and they are focusing on their specific interests. :) [21:35] https://or.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:RA [21:36] <subas__> Mr Gorvachove induced me to medicine chapter and then eclipse. He wrote a lot of articles. [21:37] Sailesh: I am pretty much used to that scenario [21:37] We have almost 5000+ articles about world cricketrs [21:37] He was a one-day batsman. :) [21:37] Just because of one Tamil Wikipedian called Punniyameen [21:37] We have another one, Diptiman who starts and writes long articles with one single edit. [21:37] I am live logging this chat at http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Internet_Relay_Chats/March_25,_2015 [21:37] (y) [21:38] <subas__> Yes Subha, you are correct. [21:38] Do you have a category of main page articles or featured articles [21:39] <Sailesh> https://or.wikipedia.org/s/qyc [21:39] <subas__> 5000 articles about different matches or about players? [21:39] Sailesh: Besides individual interest we do also focus on some vital global lists [21:40] different players [21:40] <Sailesh> Ravi : Thats why Tamil Wiki is ranked 2 [21:40] ravidreams: here is the category: https://or.wikipedia.org/s/bqz [21:41] Err, we won't accept rank 2 :) [21:41] <subas__> We have main page article. We have not rated as featured article though I have translate many of them. [21:42] <Sailesh> hahaha :D [21:42] That's OK. We also don't call them featured articles as they need to be of high standards [21:42] we call them mainpage articles [21:43] <subas__> I think 9PM is a bit late, Next time make it 8.30PM. [21:43] and also give medals [21:43] so people are encouraged to write more lengthy articles [21:44] subas__: Thanks for the feedback, Sir. Some of the officegoers might find 8.30 PM too early [21:44] let's try different timings and see what works [21:44] <Sailesh> we are jobeless ;P [21:45] Going forward, do you have some planned content activity? [21:45] ravidreams: you could probably share a few best practices about medals. Many new editors never respond to the messages on their Talk pages. [21:46] Do you have WikiLove enabled [21:47] <subas__> 9PM chat will end after say one to 1 and half hour. It will be late. Wives will be angry. [21:47] Sir, please feel free to excuse :) [21:47] safety first :) [21:47] <Sailesh> People are getting interested for wiki but we are facing difficulties to catch them [21:47] ravidreams: yes, at times extra doses of Rasagola and Masala Mudhi as well. :p [21:49] Well, WikiLove just works for us and even experinced editors collect medals in one page [21:49] <Sailesh> as sometime when i check recent changes there are many account openers but not a single edits from them [21:49] but they haven't helped them to taste all of them and respond back. :/ [21:49] <subas__> Subha should b able to tell about planned content activity. [21:49] We don't face the new user not reponding problem after the mediawiki notifications were enabled [21:49] <MKar> Hi all, sorry for late [21:50] Sailesh: New user accounts not editing is normal behaviour [21:50] People open accounts for various reasons [21:50] Gyan, MKar asigale. :) [21:50] <Sailesh> Ravi : if you can explain it well about media wiki notifications [21:50] <Sailesh> Subha bhai : [21:50] <Sailesh> Hari Bolo [21:50] Hi Mrutyunjaya [21:50] :) [21:50] <MKar> Hi [21:51] Check live log of current chat at [21:51] http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Internet_Relay_Chats/March_25,_2015 [21:51] <MKar> any specific question for me ? [21:52] <Gyan> Hi everyone. Sorry for the delayed arrival. Please ignore this message and continue. [21:52] <Sailesh> why you were late :P [21:53] Replying back to what subas__ sir asked, short term planned content activities have worked well [21:53] Hi Gyan [21:53] <subas__> May I be excused for the time being. [21:53] MKar: could tell about it and i will chip in [21:53] Like http://od.2015.wikiwomen.in/ ? [21:54] yes ravidreams [21:54] MKar: We were generally discussing about the project [21:54] No specific questions [21:54] Feel free to give a quick intro about you, how you came to know about odia wiki [21:55] <MKar> I am user:MKar, homewiki: OdiaWP, other projects: HiWP, EnWP, Commons, Wikidata etc.. [21:56] Sailesh: Those are the small FB like bubble you see next to your username [21:56] subha: A liberal dose of WikiLove among active editors themselves can help [21:57] we do share a lot of wikilove, may be it could be increased for good. :) [21:57] Yes [21:58] MKar: Thanks, how did you know abt Odia Wiki. Sorry for the boringly formal qn. Just trying to understand how different communities spread [21:58] <MKar> I came to know about Odia wiki while I was browing casually, and during the initial days Subha and Ansuman helped me to learn the Wiki culture, and now I am learning from all the users... [21:58] Since, we are running out of time, let me paste some quick links [21:58] http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Technical_Help_Desk - Any tech help, please request here [21:59] <Sailesh> i have not received a wiki love till date :3 [21:59] Sailesh, be prepared of your talk page being flooded now! :p [22:00] we run an activity on Facebook where we publicly appreciate new and active Wikimedians with their contribution [22:00] subha: You left the kid without love. Sob Sob :) [22:00] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05PoBbwsZV0 [22:00] Odia community is featured here and also at [22:01] MKar: could tell more about the activity as he actively does that. [22:01] (y) [22:01] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Td-Il0S87eE [22:02] ravidreams: the kid got more real love and love in many other occasions. :) [22:02] Ya ofcourse :) [22:02] <Sailesh> True that :) [22:02] == Saqib [uid13941@wikivoyage/Saqib] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] [22:02] but he has done incredible job in the recent past and i'm requesting everyone to share more love on his wall. :) [22:02] Subas Sir interview here - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17zYff0e6pk [22:03] You can apply for small Infrastructure support at http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Infrastructure_Scholarship [22:05] I recently had a look at your Village pump and was happy to see many voting decisions [22:05] signs of a maturing community [22:05] Would you like to share any quick questions, updates from Odia community before we talk about WikiSource [22:06] <Sailesh> Yeah we need some help for our upcoming event [22:07] ? [22:08] <Sailesh> I want all indian communities to be a part of it [22:08] <Sailesh> even i will discuss about this event with tourism minister of Odisha (now budget session is going on) [22:09] Sailesh, we all will see how to support in any way possible [22:09] can we take this off this chat and discuss separately [22:11] I have a quick project idea. Want to see if Odia Community is eager to launch it first in India :) [22:12] please do share :) [22:13] <Sailesh> yeah :) [22:13] I was checking https://ta.wikipedia.org/s/29i2 [22:13] The tamil article for Puri [22:13] was so sad to see such a small article about this important place [22:13] I guess the situation will be same in many other Indian wikis [22:13] Problem is I don't know what are the most important topics about Odisha and Odia people, culture ect., [22:14] we have global lists butnot regional lists [22:14] So, thinking some thing like [22:14] https://blog.wikimedia.org/2014/12/08/inaugural-monuments-of-spain-challenge-completed/ [22:14] What I need is a list of 30 most important topoics about Odia [22:15] and a list of 300 most important topics about Odia [22:15] This will be expanded list [22:15] <Sailesh> yeah it is good :) [22:15] We can ask other language communities to write about thse [22:15] Kind of outreach for whole culture, community in multiple languages [22:16] 1 article a day. 30 articles a month. [22:16] other communties will work [22:16] you just need to give list :) [22:16] this sounds like a good idea [22:16] Ofcourse, next month will be another language / state and you can participate :) [22:16] #30OdiaWikiDays [22:16] <Sailesh> cool [22:16] <Sailesh> (y) [22:16] little long but could be a hashtag and run for a month. :) [22:17] The communities that complete 300 list will get small prize :) [22:17] <Gyan> Nice Idea [22:17] 300 list is for ever [22:17] 30 is the real immediate taregt [22:17] achievable small targts [22:17] <Gyan> Nice videos Ravi [22:17] Gyan: Thanks [22:18] <MKar> will be a very good Indic project [22:18] So, can I get the 30 list byApril 1? [22:18] I can assure at least one community will jump on this [22:18] Guess, which :) [22:18] (y) [22:18] <MKar> sure [22:18] Punjabi? :p [22:19] Bingp [22:19] Bingo [22:19] ha ha ha [22:19] You spoiled the surprise I had :( [22:19] This can be fun and encourage interwiki collaboration and exposure too [22:19] OK then ! Too happy this is getting shaped [22:20] can we move to other odia wiki projects [22:20] <Sailesh> But i can assure Odia wiki will create articles with good content ;) [22:20] ravidreams: sorry saar! [22:20] Plan anything when Sailesh and Satdeep are there :) [22:20] <MKar> All active Indic Wikimedians know about Satdeep and his efforts :) [22:21] <Sailesh> (y) [22:21] (y) [22:21] MKar: Before you and Gyan came, all Odia Wikimdian names were starting with S :) [22:21] i want to be of their age now. :D [22:21] lol [22:23] How is Odia Wiktionary doing [22:23] <Sailesh> the most succesful Wikimedia sister project in Odia [22:23] So Sailesh has a plan for a Odia Wiki challenge. He might share about this before we move to the Wiktionary. [22:24] ok [22:24] <MKar> not many active users at wiktionary :( [22:24] <MKar> Shitikantha is managing Wiktionary [22:24] <Sailesh> That i mentioned earlier [22:25] <Sailesh> we are working on a project to increase Jagannath culture related article on every indic language wiki [22:26] <Sailesh> even if Asian wikipedias will get involved in it, it will be great [22:26] yes, sailesh [22:26] go on [22:26] How many articles are thes [22:26] <Sailesh> we will call for an IRC for this discussion [22:26] <Sailesh> Ravi as you have explained me [22:26] <Sailesh> during TTT [22:26] and this is for the upcoming Nabakalebara which is going to be one of India's largest gathering and happening after 19 years. [22:27] <Sailesh> it is believed more than 50lakh pilgrims will gather there [22:28] <Sailesh> and i want both Odia and Bengali community to do it collaboratively :) [22:28] <Sailesh> Thats all [22:28] <Sailesh> need views and opinions [22:28] <Sailesh> Ravi : I like the header in ta wiki. Whts that? [22:29] Sailesh: Yes, let's organize a separarte IRC for this [22:29] Sailesh, one question at a time :D [22:29] and discuss thoroughly [22:29] is it ok [22:29] I'm already sold when Sailesh proposed this first. [22:30] Yes calls for another IRC [22:30] <Sailesh> yeah :) [22:30] Cool [22:30] Sailesh: Those are banners featuring ta wiki women contributors [22:30] asking people to edit [22:30] on the occassion of women's history month [22:31] <Sailesh> awesome [22:33] Thanks [22:33] Checking http://stats.wikimedia.org/wiktionary/EN/TablesWikipediaOR.htm [22:34] Thinking how we can quickly increase activity [22:34] Do you have page like https://ta.wiktionary.org/s/2en [22:35] This can be sort of gamification prompting people to quickly add new word [22:35] We created those during our early days and it helped [22:37] <Sailesh> oh [22:37] <Sailesh> great [22:37] <Sailesh> admins please [22:37] <Sailesh> look at that [22:38] It is great idea. [22:38] yes, taking account of this, looks really interesting [22:39] Btw, I see 30K words added in Odia wikt in last two months [22:39] Any interesting activity there? [22:39] https://or.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:CS (help page of Odia Wikipedia) has some level of interactive features [22:39] but we could learn a lot from this [22:39] <MKar> yes, Shitikantha is using a bot to add words [22:40] yes, that is a project by Shitikantha where he is using Purnachandra Bhasakosa (a public domain lexicon) for creating them [22:41] Nice [22:41] I add new words that I come across while editing topics in Wikisource. [22:45] <MKar> WikiSource will be more successfull than WP as it is easy to contribute [22:46] Agree [22:47] Yes. no need to translate, only see and write. [22:47] <Sailesh> we require active contributors for digitization [22:48] Ya, that is a million doctor question [22:49] I am also recently focusing more on WikiSource [22:49] Trying to figure out various models for growth of each language [22:50] am logging off. will look at the log later. :) [22:51] <MKar> yes, we need more volunteers for all our projects [22:51] It was good chatting with all of you. GN :) [22:51] <MKar> good night :) [22:51] Ya, getting late [22:51] sorry [22:51] I wish to develop medical articles in all indic languages. I am trying to figure out. [22:51] we will continue to discuss on other forums [22:52] <MKar> sure [22:53] Good night. [22:53] Good night [22:53] Thanks everyone for participating [22:54] <MKar> thank you ravi for your tireless efforsts for Indic Wikiprojects [22:54] <Sailesh> good n8 [22:55] MKar: You are welcome :) [22:55] bye for today [22:55] <MKar> bye