Internet Relay Chats/May 4,2012



Date and Time May 4, 2012, 9:00 pm to 10:00 pm

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Topic City & Language Special Interest Groups

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Attendees Totally 13+ attendees.

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[21:02]  First of all, my congratulations to all the scholarship winners for WikiMania [21:03] == sudhanwa [~sudhanwa@117.195.39.207] has joined #wikimedia-in [21:03] Hi [21:03] hello Sudhanwa [21:03]  Hi sudhanwa [21:04] hi sudhanwa [21:05] Hi All [21:06]  yo [21:06] yo Ashlinji [21:06]  hi arjunaraoc garu [21:06]  Hello everybody :) [21:06] hi Rahmanuddin [21:08] sudhanwa, shall we start? [21:08] OK. Apart from Ashlin, who else from SIGs are present? Please identify. [21:08] * Rahmanuddin from SIG Telugu [21:09]  Hi Rahman, yendaku [21:10] Sudhanwa, are we waiting for sometime or we are starting? [21:10] Arkrishna from Blore SIG is also here [21:10]  Hi, I am RadhaKrishna, Bangalore SIG [21:11] Then there is Odisha1, but I think he's just lurking. [21:12] lets wait for a few minutes. [21:12]  Odisha1 is Srikanth i suppose [21:12] * srikanthlogic is lurking on the channel as always [21:12] Yes, Srikanth Kedia [21:12] (IIRC) [21:12] ok [21:13] So we have Rahmanuddin and AshLin and Arkrishna. :) [21:13] Agenda Item 1 is "Updates from SIG chairs about the activities in the last 3 months." [21:13] Yep. [21:14]  English Wikipedia to start? [21:14] Sure, Ashlin, please go ahead. [21:14]  Basically Assessment drive [21:14] AshLin: please go ahead with your updates [21:14]  the most awesome & large collaboration during the last few years [21:15]  it will soon finish [21:15] I had heard large number of wikipedians participated ... ( sorry for being away from enwiki mostly these days) [21:15]  has added about 17K new articles to en-WP [21:15] AshLin: we are talking baout last 3 months updates. from last irc meeting till now. [21:15]  it has brought new champions/users to the forefront [21:15] assessed 17k new articles or created 17k new articles? ;-) [21:16]  added wikiproject talkpage template banner to them [21:16] cool! [21:16]  yes, this has been on since Feb end [21:16] en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_India/Assessment/Tag_%26_Assess_2012 [21:16] <AshLin> it has had spinoffs [21:17] Gr8!! [21:17] Ashlin: Total edits (including deleted):23,409 [21:17] it's showing [21:17] :p [21:17] <AshLin> Ysht101 created our very own Amanki Asha initiative singlehanded! [21:17] freakofmimsy: lol [21:17] That was very nice ! [21:17] <AshLin> hey, I have hardly participated in this, its all the other guys, I have less than 200 assessments [21:18] oh okay! :) [21:18] Appromiately how many Wikipedians participated ? [21:18] tinucherian1: some 40? [21:18] <AshLin> The assessment drive for USA tanked but the Pakistani one is going very well [21:18] And how many really did more than 20 assessments? [21:18] I think it's around a dozen people or so who have done most of the assessments. [21:18] ashlin, yeah, that was really cool. [21:19] <AshLin> one real advantage from all this is people have begun to get solid knowkledge of the articles they are interested in - [21:19] Yasht101 has also started a portal on Ahmedabad city [21:19] <AshLin> they have virtually assessed every article of their field of interest [21:19] ok [21:20] <AshLin> there is even a new Indo-Pak cooperation page been set up :P [21:20] :-) [21:20] <AshLin> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Indian_and_Pakistani_Wikipedians_cooperation_board [21:21] <AshLin> besides this, the INCOTM has been happening regularly [21:21] With 111 K pages, en:WP:INDIA is one of the largest Indian language Wikipedias ! :) [21:21] that's just a project [21:21] <AshLin> due toexam commitments & my own thesis commitments, new initiatves are temporarily paused [21:21] <AshLin> yeah, we overtook Hindi WP [21:22] AshLin: Great work from English SIG mentoring people around COTM! [21:22] Other WP projects have content relevant for other countries, so it's not a true comparison [21:22] Yes, I think AshLin has done a great job keeping the momentum going [21:22] with 12K categories & 3K templates, the number of articles is just less than 1 lakh... but no a small achievement [21:23] +1 [21:23] <AshLin> we are keen to help people on demand thoughI request everyone to please help any GLAM events which come up - it seems Noopur had one in the Handicraft Museum but it had vitually no online results & I suspect it tanked [21:23] great work from WP:INDIA folks.. [21:23] tinucherian1: +1 [21:23] <AshLin> Regardig COTM all credit to BPOsitive, none to me, except happineess of guru-shishya type ;P [21:23] Not really Ashlin.. the MoU with Crafts Muesum is signed recently and annoucement will come soon [21:24] AshLin: lot harder to see results of GLAM online. needs to be planned and executed lot more in detail like WMUK [21:24] <AshLin> yeah, Aroundtheglobe is doing some good work on QR codes with a museum in England/Scotland (I forget) [21:25] AshLin: people need to identify articles to develop and stick to them, more than identifying partnerships(which is crucial too, but not everything) [21:25] <AshLin> thanks for all those who are gving me kudos, but the truth is there is very little happenung because of me [21:26] Actually Aroundtheglobe is trying for some QRpedia initative in India [21:26] <AshLin> @srikanthlogic, bit difficult to convince people to stick to one article-itis [21:27] <AshLin> we shall be restarting activties after this month end [21:27] <AshLin> over to next SIG for his report [21:27] AshLin: right, but otherwise GLAM will just mass uploading to commons, not very easy to see results [21:27] AshLin: you are aso required to visit delhi for glam [21:28] <AshLin> targetted uploading can help, recently I added 20+ tribal dioramas from Itanagar museum, made a great difference to the Arunachal Pradesh tribe articles :) [21:28] AshLin: IIRC. some plan is in preparation. [21:28] <AshLin> me? When? [21:29] sudhanwa, in Delhi? [21:29] AshLin: will ask you well in advance. i talked to you about this he other day. [21:29] <AshLin> around which month please? [21:30] <AshLin> yeah, Sudhanwa, as usual, I completely forgot [21:30] AshLin: for sure, after your versity work is finished. [21:31] <AshLin> okay, n issues [21:31] shall we go to next SIG ? [21:32] <AshLin> forthose who may not know, I am a museum-cum-archive curator who has a painting gallery & library built-in, in my charge [21:32] <AshLin> its a cosed-access government museum [21:32] <AshLin> *closed-access [21:32] <AshLin> departmental type [21:32] <AshLin> :P [21:34] AshLin: Nice to know your expertise. GLAM will benefit certainly if they can tap your skills [21:35] <AshLin> thanks arjunaraoc [21:36] and he maintains it very well [21:36] those swords and machine guns are wonderful [21:37] <AshLin> blush [21:37] <AshLin> can we go onto next report please [21:37] ok [21:37] <Arkrishna> Hi, I am RadhaKrishna. Bangalore SIFG [21:37] <Arkrishna> SIG [21:38] <Arkrishna> we have conducted a wiki session (some kind of WikiAcademy ) in a corporate office [21:38] <Arkrishna> response was pretty good [21:38] <AshLin> cool, whats up in B'lore, bro? [21:38] <Arkrishna> They also sponsored us to use their Big conference room for any of our wiki meetups [21:39] which corporate office was this? [21:39] <Arkrishna> we are in discussion with 2 other corporates for either a WikiAcademy or introduction to wikiacademy sessions [21:39] <Arkrishna> Alcatel-Lucent [21:40] <Arkrishna> ArjunaRaoC gave contact of a dental college to organize a wikiAcademy [21:40] <Arkrishna> that is about to materialize this month end [21:40] <AshLin> very good to know [21:41] <Arkrishna> we started a mentor network. where any one who needs help can request for a mentor. we will connect them to experts coming forward to mentor [21:41] <Arkrishna> so far 2 people came forward to mentor. one new wikipedian requested for a mentor [21:41] <Arkrishna> so connected them [21:42] <Arkrishna> new wikipedian gets two mentors. One primary mentor. In his unavailability, he can reach secondary mentor [21:42] <Rahmanuddin> this concept is good [21:43] we just completed 45th meetup and counting ! :) [21:44] IIRC there is an similar existing setup on enwp, but its not obviously easy to find the place by newbies [21:44] <AshLin> Bangalore leads the way! [21:44] <Arkrishna> yes, 45th was conducted middle of month (instead fo regular 2nd sunday) when Barry & hisham came to bangalore [21:44] we are going to try rotating the venue, so that we have address interested ppl from different parts of the city [21:44] <AshLin> I think its time you guys hosted a Conference! [21:44] <Rahmanuddin> good go [21:45] <Arkrishna> yes, one in middle of bangalore (all these years), one newly identified corporate office in north. [21:45] <Arkrishna> one more in discussion (again in corporate office) in south [21:45] ten bangalore had 250+ participants :) [21:46] tinucherian1: that was a surprise no ? :D [21:47] haha ! :) thanks to your leadership ! it was no surpise [21:48] <Arkrishna> I am done [21:48] <Arkrishna> *Over* :) [21:48] tinucherian1: lol, lets take this offline :D [21:48] :) [21:50] good work guys [21:50] who else for updates/ [21:53] Rahmanuddin ? [21:53] Odisha1: anything from you? [21:55] lets talk about memberships/ [21:56] some 10 forms are fom pune. some more will come up in next meetup [21:57] considering their meetup rate, banglore can actually fo better. [21:58] any suggestions for increasing memberships? [21:58] == Odisha1 [~wikiodish@wikimedia/odisha1] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] [21:58] == Odisha1_ [~wikiodish@117.197.239.112] has joined #wikimedia-in [21:59] encourage regular wikipedians to join the chapter [22:00] tinucherian1: how? banners ? we have banner on marathi [22:01] only if the larger community accepts, the chapter is more meaningful [22:01] banner was for all users or logged in usrs ? [22:01] all pages on mrwp [22:02] mm [22:03] can also use ip-geolocation also. [22:03] ok [22:04] so, any ips from say banglore will get a banner [22:04] <Arkrishna> tinucherian1: can we use the physical poster @ metro etc (high crowd places) that we discussed sometime back [22:04] i know.. used that in en.wiki.. but only Watchlist banner allowed from en.wiki [22:05] general banner goes from meta admin interface [22:05] easier to put up banner for all on indiac wikis [22:05] we may not want to target general public now.. we want to encourage the community to embrace the chapter first [22:06] the SIG Chairs can take lead in encouraging the Wikimedians in the community to join the chapter [22:06] we can use wiki.wikimedia.in and blog.wikimedia.in for membership promotion sitenotice/banners [22:07] We did use wiki last year [22:07] at the same time, plz understand that it can also be sensitive [22:07] some community members may feel that we are trying to divide the community.. that shudnt be there [22:08] tinucherian1: Do you see any issue with wikimedia.in places for promotion? [22:08] we must be clearly communicate that chapter is there to serve and support the community [22:08] no arjuna.. we can start banners in wiki,wikimedia.in [22:08] i will work on that soon [22:08] thx tinucherian1 [22:09] first things first.. need to clear the communication backlog :) [22:10] over to you, sudhanwa... [22:12] tinucherian1: we are for community. and not the other way round. [22:12] yes.. that is the key message we have to communicate [22:12] i think that is already understood by everyone. [22:13] just said on side note, because some community members still have some apprehensions on the chapter [22:13] i dont think anyone will feel about the so called "divide" [22:14] tinucherian1: yes. that may remain for some time. we have to carry the history along. [22:14] tinucherian1: but that can change with our work. [22:14] yea.. our current work is our tetstimony [22:14] testimony [22:14] lets get to the next point - grants!! [22:15] that will talk more about the work. [22:15] :) [22:16] == jayanta [~jayanta@wikimedia/jayantanth] has joined #wikimedia-in [22:17] we are finalising grants process from the chapter [22:17] hello jayantada [22:17] jayanta: hi [22:17] <AshLin> I request that grants/money/funds must be handled with complet integrity & transparency [22:17] lets get updates from jayanta? then switch to grants. [22:18] <AshLin> I have been on record being critical of some entities [22:18] <AshLin> it would be tragic if we the chapter provided grounds on this issue for criticism by others. [22:18] AshLin: we are simplifying the process. [22:19] <AshLin> okay, but ask for records and explanation of use [22:19] AshLin: and everything about the grant starting from request will be on wiki [22:20] <AshLin> undrstood [22:20] jayanta: you there? [22:23] looks like jayanta is busy [22:23] hmmm [22:23] == Arkrishna [75c0534c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.117.192.83.76] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] [22:27] sudhanwa, do you have further annoucements on grants to SIGs? [22:27] not exactly. was just going to talk a littlebit. once the pages are ready, we will post it. [22:27] Ashlin, I think transparency is still important, but then since our target group would likely be Wikimedia volunteers, the venues for misuse of funds is low. [22:28] The amounts we will be talking about will also be low [22:28] <AshLin> agreed, but when amounts are small, volunteers can get careless or "chalta hai" [22:29] <AshLin> even smallest sums should be explained properly and bills retained [22:29] AshLin: i dont think they are careless. [22:29] <AshLin> not necessarily but scope is always there [22:30] sudhanwa: Please make the SIG IRCs recur at an agreed frequency, so that the coordination can be improved. [22:30] <AshLin> at least monthly [22:31] +1000 [22:31] monthly....may be.. if there are activities happening, then its fine. [22:31] lets try it out. [22:31] we wud also encourage the SIG chairs & SIG to lead IRCs with communty on a regular basis [22:31] i see that in Kannada wikipedia very active these days [22:32] tinucherian1: online is completely different than real world activities. [22:32] Since we have so many SIGs, atleast few will have some updates. [22:33] we need to collabrate and speak somewhere.,..especially when ppl are located far [22:33] yes. [22:33] yes. [22:34] Thx All. Bye [22:34] <AshLin> agree with arjunaraoc [22:34] <AshLin> bye [22:34] bye Arjuna [22:34] == AshLin [7beca877@gateway/web/freenode/ip.123.236.168.119] has quit [Quit: Page closed] [22:34] == arjunaraoc [3b5c88f2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.59.92.136.242] has quit [Quit: Page closed] [22:35] lets close now. [22:35] hi everybody I am so late ! [22:35] sorry [22:35] thanks for joining [22:35] == freakofmimsy [~bhati@wikimedia/Sir-Nicholas-de-Mimsy-Porpington] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] [22:35] jayanta: you have any updates? [22:36] no problem jayanta.. we will log the chat [22:37] yes jayanta, wud to like to share any news from bn.wiki ? [22:37] == freakofmimsy [~bhati@wikimedia/Sir-Nicholas-de-Mimsy-Porpington] has joined #wikimedia-in [22:40] not a significant, but one one meetup every month..:) [22:41] we r trying to conduct small city in WB [22:43] nice [22:44] ok sudhanwa, we can close the "offical IRC" :)