Talk:FDC Proposal 2013/Budget

Add link
Add link to proposal ideas page.--Arjunaraoc 20:48, 23 September 2013 (IST)
 * Its here . Cheers, Pranav 13:09, 21 October 2013 (IST)

Funding allocation for language communities and SIGs
Hi, we gave a detailed proposal for Tamil Wikimedia related activities at http://wiki.wikimedia.in/FDC_Proposal_2013#Recommendations_from_Tamil_Wikipedia_Community. However, except for allocation for Innovative projects, GLAM acdtivities and Digitisation (Budget items 3.5.1, 3.5.4, 3.5.5),I don't see any other budget item that directly sustains any measurable impact on the growth of language communities. Even this fund allocation will prove miniscule when distributed for all the language communities.

I strongly recommend to extend the budget proposal to make use of the full $200,000 that you prposed in your letter of intent and allocate a good budget for language communities and special interest groups. We have our plans for 2014 in development at https://ta.wikipedia.org/s/38t3. We can also provide a detailed cost requirement for this proposal if needed. If the Chapter is hesitating to claim more budget for lack of man power, we assure to for a special interest group for Tamil and execute the project we propose with full responsibility. Thanks.--Ravi 11:08, 24 September 2013 (IST)


 * Thank you so much for your comments. As Karthik mentioned it has been a tough balancing act. I wouldn't agree on your summary. Here is is why:


 * Section 1 for regional or topical events is for languages or topic specific events. The national conference too would have a significant amount of indic scholars, speakers etc from our last experience. So for example if the Tamil community wants a conference next year, there is a budget for that.


 * Section 2 is also for promotional material to be used by all communities


 * Section 3.1, 3.2, 3.3, 3.7 are for use by all communities


 * A large part of the budget (aprox 30% roughly) is towards a new office and staff. This would benefit the entire movement at large indirectly as you would have community space as well as full time personnel to support your work.


 * Initially we did not calculate non-recurring expenditure (legal provision and office deposit) as well as capital goods (office furniture fixtures and equipment) as they are not annual project expenses. However last night the WMF advised us that we need to include this. Unfortunately this does mean we would hit the $200k cap and whatever adjustments need to be made would need to be done within the current budget.


 * We am extremely pleased by your engagement on this matter and would encourage all communities to do so, so as to come up with something beneficial to all. Pranav 12:33, 24 September 2013 (IST) ps also responded at Tamil Wikipedia in detail. Pranav 15:06, 30 September 2013 (IST)

English language editors
I had made a suggestion for arranging workshops for English Language editors, I wonder how this budget addresses this request. Yogesh Khandke 19:41, 24 September 2013 (IST)
 * There are several budgets such as regional/topical events, academies, outreach etc. that can be used for this. We have tried to leave the budget as open as possible so that all active communities needing monetary support could make use of it. Pranav 14:39, 30 September 2013 (IST)

Travel, telephone and other reimbursements
Editors editing Wikipedia do so using their own resources, it is a passion for them, in that light I am uncomfortable with all this reimbursements, it is not the right trend, I'm not aware of precedents, and my statement is regardless of what they are. We ought to do all this voluntarily.— Yogesh Khandke 19:52, 25 September 2013 (IST)
 * On a personal note I agree with you . However, we have made a small provision (nowhere near amount requested) for volunteer teams to have concalls. There are occasions when it is not possible for everyone to say login to Skype and 10 volunteers need to discuss something about an event or activity, the telephone bridge would support such an issue. Pranav 14:41, 30 September 2013 (IST)

Query
Hi, I dont see plan for WLM 2014 in this budget. Is there only plan for Wiki loves India ? Is there plan for allocating budget for Microgrants program ? -- naveenpf 09:13, 2 October 2013 (IST)
 * Wiki Loves India replaces WLM, it is a much wider contest. WLM itself is not likely to take place at international level next year as per our understanding. Yes, in terms of outreach/events/innovation etc. community can continue requesting for budget allocation to them through microgrants and we will continue to encourage the same. Pranav 13:07, 21 October 2013 (IST)

Approved
Dear all, this draft proposal has been approved by the FDC task force of Executive Committee of the Wikimedia India Chapter. To add, this was approved much before, and then it was brought to public wiki. -- ♪Karthik♫ ♪Nadar♫ 23:00, 18 November 2013 (IST)